I am sure you have heard that when Jesus cried out in a loud voice from the cross saying “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mark 15:33-34; Matthew 27:45-46) that this was when God the father turned his back on Jesus because as He bore the sins of the world and God […]
This is a WordPress repost of an excellent article originally authored by J. Steve Lee on his ischristianitytrue.wordpress.com website.
Have you ever read or heard something about a Biblical scripture that made you actually stop and rethink a position or belief that you previously held? Well, for me, this is one of them. The part that bothers me is that I didn’t see it before. Click on the direct link below and I’m pretty sure you’ll see what I mean. And, I’d really be interested on feedback on this one, please let me know your thoughts!
via “My God, My God” Why Do Pastors Misinterpret Me? — Is Christianity True?
i enjoyed that Bruce. I have always vaguely wondered about the interpretation of that passage, as it did somewhat disturb me. As that writer pointed out, it seems to imply a separation of the Trinity which is. as he also said, incoherent. Interesting read and thanks.
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Well you’re not alone Wally, the article definitely made me rethink my usual response too!
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I suppose this is tied into the whole Eternal Subordination of the Son theology? I have read of some of these doctrines leading to abuses in the church, with their focus on rigid hierarchies in familes and churches. I don’t really know much about the subject, but seems I have seen some write on that.
It’s challenging, Bruce. I mean clearly the sin of the world was placed on Jesus; that is how we are free. So, some might make the case that: how could God the Father NOT turn His back on the Son at that moment? How could He maintain the relationship while at the same time remain Holy and Perfect? I am not expressing an opinion really there BTW, because I actually have no real thoughts on the subject. I am just asking really.
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Hi Wally, I found the article thought provoking and logical in it’s approach BUT with regard to the theology implications, I would be in the same boat that you are, basically asking. That is one of the reasons I asked for feedback. Hopefully someone with more grey cells than I have will shed some light on the theological implications. I have always looked upon the trinity as equal, yet each maintaining roles with the Father being the superior role IAW God the Father’s will. Jesus willingly obeyed the Father and when all is completed, Jesus will present the Church to the Father. I’m probably in over my head on this one, looking forward to further responses. Grace and blessings Wally!
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Reblogged this on Talmidimblogging.
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When I first “discovered” Psalm 22, it occurred to me that when Jesus said this first line from the cross, that He was sending yet another sign that He was fulfilling prophesy, but I’m not sure I ever articulated that. It seemed so cold and analytical to suggest that in the midst of His agony He would be dropping hints.
I also thought that if He were indeed experiencing the penalty of our sins, that would certainly include the horror of at least the FEELING of being without God. I’m sure there is nothing worse that that utter hopelessness.
God is certainly capable of accomplishing more than one thing at a time, so maybe He was doing both. (I’ll add that to my list of things I’m going to ask Him when I see Him.)
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I hear you Ann, I’m still undecided on this. Was kinda hoping that SlimJim might jump in.
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